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[19:03:46] &lt;pleia2&gt; Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the Americas meeting for August 19th The wiki page for the Review Board is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/Americas<br />
[19:03:59] &lt;pleia2&gt; We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.<br />
[19:04:11] &lt;pleia2&gt; The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).<br />
[19:04:26] &lt;pleia2&gt; Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.<br />
[19:04:36] &lt;pleia2&gt; During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.<br />
[19:04:52] &lt;pleia2&gt; When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)<br />
[19:05:09] &lt;pleia2&gt; Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant...<br />
[19:05:30] &lt;pleia2&gt; [TOPIC] C3s4r membership<br />
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[19:05:46] &lt;C3s4r&gt; Hi all<br />
[19:05:54] &lt;C3s4r&gt; First of all, sorry for my bad writing into English.<br />
[19:06:08] &lt;C3s4r&gt; I hope to meet the expectations for membership in the ubuntu project.<br />
[19:06:44] &lt;C3s4r&gt; I have since 2006 supporting the project LoCoTeams Ubuntu and Ubuntu-ve since then I have been promoting a national level with the various projects I've made since then.<br />
[19:07:11] &lt;C3s4r&gt; Since 2006 part of several organizations for the development of Free Software events nationwide (Venezuela), bringing in those oportundades to Richard Stallman, just as local events and facilities to develop OS Ubuntu.<br />
[19:08:08] &lt;C3s4r&gt; I am currently Coordinator of the Academy of Free Software Regional Zulia, and we provided various web services, dns, mail, everything under the SO Ubuntu Server. Similarly, I have participated and still participating in the Free Software migration at national level with the current support of a presidential decree requiring all public institutions to migrate to SL in which I am leader of migration in Fundacite Zulia. http://www.fundacite-zulia.gob.ve.<br />
[19:08:18] &lt;C3s4r&gt; My link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CesarSevilla and https://launchpad.net/~c3s4r<br />
[19:08:26] &lt;maco&gt; C3s4r: no need to apologise for your english :)<br />
[19:08:26] &lt;pleia2&gt; wow, tons of event work :)<br />
[19:08:28] &lt;beuno&gt; C3s4r, si, I've seen you around more than a few times<br />
[19:08:51] &lt;beuno&gt; I'm curious, what's been driving you to be so involved these past 5 years?<br />
[19:08:58] &lt;C3s4r&gt; beuno, thank's<br />
[19:10:17] &lt;C3s4r&gt; One of the things was to find the opportunity to enjoy the freedom to implement any technical changes in the OS, especially in Ubuntu.<br />
[19:11:26] &lt;beuno&gt; C3s4r, I have one more question for you. What do you feel needs improving in Ubuntu?<br />
[19:11:44] &lt;C3s4r&gt; Also, Ubuntu gave me a chance to meet many, many projects and above all the opportunity to apply the type of work they do as a team<br />
[19:13:31] &lt;maco&gt; C3s4r: what took you so long to apply?<br />
[19:13:33] &lt;C3s4r&gt; Assist in the development of free software drivers. Disseminate additional packaging methods.<br />
[19:13:41] &lt;pleia2&gt; [VOTE] C3s4r membership<br />
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[19:13:44] &lt;pleia2&gt; +1<br />
[19:13:47] &lt;maco&gt; +1<br />
[19:14:13] &lt;nhandler&gt; +1<br />
[19:14:16] &lt;dinda&gt; give me one second to catch up<br />
[19:14:20] &lt;C3s4r&gt; pleia2, For fear of not knowing how to write or speak English.<br />
[19:15:19] &lt;dinda&gt; +1<br />
[19:15:23] &lt;beuno&gt; +1<br />
[19:15:25] &lt;pleia2&gt; [endvote]<br />
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[19:15:31] &lt;pleia2&gt; congrats and welcome, C3s4r! :)<br />
[19:15:34] &lt;C3s4r&gt; :D<br />
[19:15:44] &lt;C3s4r&gt; thank's all<br />
[19:15:45] &lt;temposs&gt; ooo very impressive C3s4r :-)<br />
[19:15:51] &lt;nhandler&gt; Congratulations C3s4r !<br />
[19:15:59] &lt;temposs&gt; you are a very good contributor, I think<br />
[19:16:21] &lt;pleia2&gt; j_baer: you here?<br />
[19:16:30] &lt;j_baer&gt; Hello everyone<br />
[19:16:30] &lt;C3s4r&gt; nhandler, and try to do better every day.<br />
[19:16:32] &lt;pleia2&gt; [TOPIC] j_baer membership<br />
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[19:17:18] &lt;j_baer&gt; I've been a user and contributor to ubuntu for many years.<br />
[19:17:36] &lt;maco&gt; wait have all of today's people been using ubuntu longer than me and contributing longer too? O_o<br />
[19:18:15] &lt;j_baer&gt; Don't  know :)<br />
[19:18:51] &lt;j_baer&gt; My interest is in the area of usability and I am a long term member of the art team and others.<br />
[19:19:38] &lt;j_baer&gt; A summary of activity can be seen at my wiki page. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer<br />
[19:20:00] &lt;nhandler&gt; Wow, lots of great themes and the countdown banners were great<br />
[19:20:33] &lt;dinda&gt; agreed, lots of great work<br />
[19:20:43] &lt;j_baer&gt; Current activity now is author of the Impression GTK Theme: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/07/impression-gtk-themes-get-radical.html<br />
[19:21:03] &lt;j_baer&gt; and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Maverick/ImpressionGtkThemes<br />
[19:21:45] &lt;j_baer&gt; I also blog about ubuntu here: http://www.projblog.com/<br />
[19:22:15] * nhandler would enjoy seeing those types of posts on the Planet<br />
[19:22:22] &lt;j_baer&gt; In other activities I have also contributed to MoinMoin ... :)<br />
[19:22:29] &lt;beuno&gt; j_baer, what drives you to contribute artwork?<br />
[19:23:14] &lt;j_baer&gt; Bringing the best user experience is a major driver for me. IMO Ubuntu leads in this area.<br />
[19:23:34] &lt;pleia2&gt; yeah, we're fortunate to have attracted a lot of great artists like yourself<br />
[19:23:43] * pleia2 can draw stick figures, barely<br />
[19:24:07] &lt;nhandler&gt; j_baer: You mentioned usability, what specific area are you interested in?<br />
[19:24:08] &lt;beuno&gt; having the same passion as you, together with all your great work, I am ready to vote  :)<br />
[19:24:09] &lt;j_baer&gt; Well you know art is in the eyes of the beholder :)<br />
[19:28:10] &lt;nhandler&gt; j_baer: See my question please<br />
[19:29:19] &lt;j_baer&gt; Sorry ...  Most of my work has been with GTK and how it guides and assists users of the desktop.<br />
[19:29:59] &lt;j_baer&gt; With the many changes at hand I am impressed by the fact folks are asking how will that work and does it add value.<br />
[19:30:15] &lt;pleia2&gt; [VOTE] j_baer membership<br />
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[19:30:18] &lt;pleia2&gt; +1<br />
[19:30:18] &lt;j_baer&gt; This release has been very active.<br />
[19:30:23] &lt;maco&gt; +1<br />
[19:30:38] &lt;nhandler&gt; j_baer: Can you also please identify with nickserv (as a formality): /msg nickserv help identify<br />
[19:31:00] &lt;beuno&gt; +1<br />
[19:32:49] &lt;j_baer&gt; Sorry, I may need some help here :( Is the syntax /msg ubuntu-meeting help identify ?<br />
[19:33:42] &lt;beuno&gt; j_baer, /msg nickserv identify YOURPASSWORD<br />
[19:33:44] &lt;IdleOne&gt; /msg nickserv identify yourpass<br />
[19:34:29] &lt;j_baer&gt;  /msg nickserv help identify hollycombs<br />
[19:34:44] &lt;maco&gt; time to change that password?<br />
[19:34:56] &lt;IdleOne&gt; j_baer: ok type this /msg nickserv identify hollycombs<br />
[19:35:10] &lt;IdleOne&gt; then we will get your pass changed<br />
[19:35:11] &lt;IdleOne&gt; :)<br />
[19:36:29] &lt;j_baer&gt; Darn - I rather liked it. :)<br />
[19:36:36] &lt;nhandler&gt; +1<br />
[19:36:38] &lt;pleia2&gt; [endvote]<br />
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[19:36:42] &lt;pleia2&gt; congrats and welcome j_baer :)<br />
[19:36:49] &lt;nhandler&gt; Great work j_baer<br />
[19:36:54] &lt;j_baer&gt; Thanks everyone ...<br />
[19:37:04] &lt;beuno&gt; j_baer, \o/  welcome<br />
[19:37:07] &lt;pleia2&gt; ok, looks like temposs fell off<br />
[19:37:09] &lt;pleia2&gt; cnd, are you here?<br />
[19:37:12] &lt;beuno&gt; I'm thrilled your on board<br />
[19:37:23] &lt;beuno&gt; j_baer, be sure to add your blog to the ubuntu planet ASAP!<br />
[19:37:34] &lt;j_baer&gt; Will do ...<br />
[19:37:40] &lt;IdleOne&gt; j_baer: congrats!<br />
[19:37:53] &lt;andrew__&gt; this is temposs<br />
[19:38:01] &lt;andrew__&gt; I'm sorry, X-Chat crashed just now<br />
[19:38:03] &lt;beuno&gt; j_baer, and if you can get a few clones of yourself, the community will benefit quite a bit, so look into that as well please  :)<br />
[19:38:18] &lt;pleia2&gt; andrew__: can you change your nick and identify w/ nickserv, please?<br />
[19:38:27] &lt;pleia2&gt; [TOPIC] temposs membership<br />
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[19:38:45] &lt;andrew__&gt; please hold on a second for that<br />
[19:40:29] &lt;andrew__&gt; I think temposs didn't get logged out<br />
[19:40:37] &lt;pleia2&gt; it did, just /nick temposs<br />
[19:40:45] &lt;temposs&gt; sorry<br />
[19:40:51] &lt;temposs&gt; haven't used X-Chat before, really<br />
[19:41:34] &lt;temposs&gt; am I adequately identified?<br />
[19:41:36] &lt;pleia2&gt; ok, please go ahead and introduce yourself and link to your pages, if anyone is here to give testimonals they can speak up at any time :)<br />
[19:41:37] &lt;nhandler&gt; Yep<br />
[19:41:44] &lt;temposs&gt; thank you<br />
[19:42:00] &lt;temposs&gt; I have been a user an contributor to the Ubuntu community since 2006<br />
[19:42:05] &lt;temposs&gt; *and<br />
[19:42:46] &lt;temposs&gt; My primary focus points in my contribution have been 1) helping new users of Ubuntu<br />
[19:43:18] &lt;temposs&gt; and 2) contributing to desktop apps that make Ubuntu more robust<br />
[19:44:01] &lt;temposs&gt; I have more than 1000 posts on the forums, primarily in the Absolute Beginners Area<br />
[19:44:43] &lt;temposs&gt; In that arena I have done things such as packaging a Lexmark driver for Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkPrinters<br />
[19:45:17] &lt;beuno&gt; temposs, has that package been uploaded to the repos?<br />
[19:45:18] &lt;temposs&gt; (the Lexmark Z600)<br />
[19:45:27] &lt;temposs&gt; no, I have not gotten around to that<br />
[19:46:12] &lt;nhandler&gt; temposs: I see your wiki focuses on bugs reported and bugs fixed. Any bug triaging work?<br />
[19:46:15] &lt;maco&gt; do you need a sponsor?<br />
[19:46:27] &lt;maco&gt; nhandler and I can both sponsor packages<br />
[19:46:33] &lt;maco&gt; if that's all that's stopping you<br />
[19:47:33] &lt;temposs&gt; nhandler: I have done some bug triaging in network manager and deja-dup and wine, among others<br />
[19:47:50] &lt;nhandler&gt; temposs: Any plans to apply to Bug Control in the future ?<br />
[19:48:15] &lt;temposs&gt; maco: yeah, I also need to check that the package works in the current version of Ubuntu<br />
[19:48:38] &lt;temposs&gt; maco: I don't actually have this printer...I developed it completely based on user feedback<br />
[19:48:40] &lt;maco&gt; temposs: join #ubuntu-packaging after the meeting if you need help sorting out setting up pbuilder and such<br />
[19:49:17] &lt;beuno&gt; temposs, any LoCo involvement?<br />
[19:49:32] &lt;nhandler&gt; I see you are part of the IL LoCo team on LP. What part of IL are you in?<br />
[19:49:36] &lt;temposs&gt; nhandler: I do not know what Bug Control is, but I am happy to apply to any kind of group like that<br />
[19:49:49] &lt;temposs&gt; maco: I will do that<br />
[19:50:01] &lt;nhandler&gt; temposs: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol They help triage bugs for Ubuntu<br />
[19:50:11] &lt;maco&gt; temposs: Bug Control is the group that can do things like set importance or mark a bug as triaged. its a step beyond Bug Squad<br />
[19:50:29] * nhandler notes the bug squad also have a mentoring program to help train people<br />
[19:50:32] &lt;temposs&gt; bueno: there is no LoCo around here, but I have been involved with the LuG at the university<br />
[19:50:38] &lt;nhandler&gt; temposs: What university?<br />
[19:50:45] * nhandler is from IL<br />
[19:50:47] &lt;temposs&gt; University of Illinois- Urbana Champaign<br />
[19:51:02] &lt;pleia2&gt; temposs: you've done some great work over the years, but I'd really like to see you join bug control, work toward getting your package uploaded, and get some testimonials from folks you work with, really just get involved with teams and the wider community a bit more :)<br />
[19:51:10] &lt;nhandler&gt; temposs: Ah, yeah. A bit far from the Chicago LoCo, but definitely some good Ubuntu-folks down there. Stop by #ubuntu-chicago sometime though ;)<br />
[19:51:41] &lt;dinda&gt; temposs:  could you maybe get some more testimonials from the forums area?<br />
[19:51:51] &lt;dinda&gt; it looks like you've done some good work over there<br />
[19:52:23] &lt;temposs&gt; there is one person I keep in contact with who I helped significantly, but he's not online currently<br />
[19:52:44] &lt;temposs&gt; Also, the deja-dup package I contribute to most is maintained by a Canonical employee<br />
[19:53:01] &lt;temposs&gt; he already wrote me a letter of recommendation for Peace Corps<br />
[19:53:06] &lt;temposs&gt; but I don't have access to that text<br />
[19:53:08] &lt;temposs&gt; ...<br />
[19:53:21] &lt;temposs&gt; I thought the testimonial was optional<br />
[19:53:50] &lt;dinda&gt; temposs: it helps show your invovlement<br />
[19:53:54] &lt;temposs&gt; and especially since I have much of my interaction with other community members/users documented on the forums and launchpad<br />
[19:56:28] &lt;dinda&gt; temposs: there is a foaf system, friend of a friend system, that helps us understand your overall involvement. . .<br />
[19:57:01] &lt;dinda&gt; so testimonials widen your friend circle and most likely overlap with our circles. . .<br />
[19:57:42] &lt;pleia2&gt; temposs: testimonials don't need to come from members or anyone official, just folks who know your work on the forums, perhaps ones you've worked with on deja dup or other projects you've triaged with<br />
[19:58:11] &lt;temposs&gt; I think this should be documented more completely in the membership instructions...<br />
[19:58:29] &lt;nhandler&gt; Wasn't one of the pages just updated about that? /me goes to check<br />
[19:58:44] &lt;beuno&gt; temposs, so it looks like you've contributed quite a bit to the project, great job. I think you're a few inches away from being at the right stage, but I feel you need to get involved with more of the community, teams and processes<br />
[19:58:50] &lt;temposs&gt; what I saw is: If there are recognized members of the Ubuntu community supporting you at the meeting, this will definitely speed up the process of approving you. If your "sponsors" can't attend the relevant meeting, ask them to leave a testimonial on your wiki page about your contributions.<br />
[19:58:51] &lt;temposs&gt; Note: They do not need to be Ubuntu Members, just a part of the community, even your local community. Testimonials in languages other than English are fine. Some members of boards are multilingual, and if not, they can use a translation tool.<br />
[19:59:33] &lt;pleia2&gt; beuno: I agree<br />
[19:59:35] &lt;nhandler&gt; " It is important that members demonstrate the ability to interact with others, so detailed endorsements from others are important criteria that are evaluated during your application, because they give better insight into specific parts of the community. Testimonials from members of various parts of the community are appreciated, even if they're not Ubuntu members themselves."<br />
[20:01:48] &lt;pleia2&gt; temposs: can you gather some testimonials and perhaps work toward getting the package included and joining bug control? you're welcome to come back in a month or two and have us re-evaluate your application :)<br />
[20:01:58] &lt;maco&gt; I'm kind of put off by you making a package and not trying to get it into the repos to benefit more users :-/  Would be nice to work more closely with the Ubuntu Dev team<br />
[20:03:34] &lt;temposs&gt; pleia2: I can do that<br />
[20:03:54] &lt;nhandler&gt; temposs: If you need help, please do not hesitate to ask. I know we would all be willing to help point you in the right direction<br />
[20:03:58] &lt;pleia2&gt; temposs: great, keep up the good work, hope to see you again soon!<br />
[20:04:08] &lt;temposs&gt; ok, thanks for the suggestions :-)<br />
[20:04:28] &lt;pleia2&gt; ok, last call for cnd<br />
[20:04:44] &lt;maco&gt; who's already a member anyway :P<br />
[20:04:55] &lt;pleia2&gt; yeah, via -dev<br />
[20:04:59] &lt;pleia2&gt; nhandler: sending an email?<br />
[20:05:03] &lt;nhandler&gt; pleia2: Yep.<br />
[20:05:12] &lt;pleia2&gt; ok, I think we can wrap this meeting up then!<br />
[20:05:20] &lt;pleia2&gt; thanks for coming everyone<br />
[20:05:21] &lt;nhandler&gt; Great meeting everyone. Congrats to the new members<br />
[20:05:30] &lt;dinda&gt; thanks all, congrats<br />
[20:05:38] &lt;pleia2&gt; #endmeeting<br />
Meeting ended.<br />