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[12:14:56] &lt;ajmitch&gt; OK, ARB meeting time, I'm just digging up the irc logs for the last session for the action items<br />
[12:15:46] &lt;ajmitch&gt; the old agenda was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Agenda<br />
[12:16:38] &lt;ajmitch&gt; from the logs, I can also see a couple of action items on fagan looking into /opt & tools in natty, and fagan & wendar doing some wiki pages on creating submissions<br />
[12:17:00] &lt;wendar&gt; the wiki pages are in progress<br />
[12:17:17] &lt;ajmitch&gt; great, are they up on the wiki now?<br />
[12:17:36] &lt;wendar&gt; I've been developing them offline, but I'm adding them to the wiki now<br />
[12:17:48] &lt;wendar&gt; you should find them linked from the main AppReviewBoard page<br />
[12:18:04] &lt;wendar&gt; I went for a simple starting page, linking to more details on each of the steps<br />
[12:18:04] &lt;ajmitch&gt; thanks<br />
[12:18:32] &lt;wendar&gt; I'll probably add a "checklist" too<br />
[12:19:05] &lt;ajmitch&gt; We can probably add various tips & other things there<br />
[12:19:06] &lt;wendar&gt; there are some inconsistencies between the original spec'd process and what we've actually been doing<br />
[12:19:20] &lt;ajmitch&gt; such as in the reviewing & voting?<br />
[12:19:27] &lt;wendar&gt; but, as far as it doesn't impact the security of the process, I'm documenting what we're actually doing<br />
[12:19:34] &lt;wendar&gt; more in the format of the request<br />
[12:19:45] &lt;ajmitch&gt; OK<br />
[12:19:54] &lt;wendar&gt; the original spec asked them to create a wiki page of their request and submit a link to the wiki page<br />
[12:20:02] &lt;ajmitch&gt; I've had some thoughts about the reviewing that we can come to later<br />
[12:20:18] &lt;wendar&gt; but everyone is just putting the information straight in the bug, and really, that's a lot easier to work with than a separate wiki page anyway<br />
[12:20:33] &lt;wendar&gt; (it's only a few lines of information)<br />
[12:20:44] &lt;ajmitch&gt; agreed, the bug record is just as useful as a wiki page<br />
[12:20:57] &lt;wendar&gt; (thoughts on reviewing) okay, great, we can talk about that too<br />
[12:21:18] &lt;wendar&gt; so, I'm documenting it as "put the info in the bug report"<br />
[12:22:01] &lt;ajmitch&gt; for the reviewing before the final vote, I'd like it if we announced that a package was ready for vote on the mailing list prior to the meeting, and then voted on in the meeting<br />
[12:22:18] &lt;ajmitch&gt; that'd give people a heads up that there's something final to review<br />
[12:23:32] &lt;ajmitch&gt; sound reasonable?<br />
[12:23:53] &lt;wendar&gt; yes, that's a good idea<br />
[12:24:49] &lt;stgraber&gt; yep<br />
[12:24:53] &lt;ajmitch&gt; great<br />
[12:25:19] &lt;ajmitch&gt; other items to look at..  Discuss conventions for ARB proposals on public code repository/tarball/etc<br />
[12:26:05] &lt;ajmitch&gt; I'd need to read the logs again for a history of this one, we'll keep it on the list of things to do for now<br />
[12:26:23] &lt;ajmitch&gt; any other action items to add for now?<br />
[12:27:23] &lt;wendar&gt; the public code repository is relevant to the guide<br />
[12:27:58] &lt;wendar&gt; I'm going to add it as a suggestion in the submission that they provide links to upstream resources, and the group can review<br />
[12:28:18] &lt;ajmitch&gt; sounds good<br />
[12:29:49] &lt;stgraber&gt; yeah, they should always point to where they found the upstream code, be that a tarball or some branch<br />
[12:30:11] &lt;stgraber&gt; would also be great to encourage them to include a debian/watch file<br />
[12:30:42] &lt;wendar&gt; we can explicitly mention debian/watch in the packaging section<br />
[12:30:50] &lt;ajmitch&gt; generally they should be upstream, a pointer to where the code can be downloaded from is needed in debian/copyright, but it'd be good to have it in the bug<br />
[12:32:05] &lt;ajmitch&gt; I see that we're making slow (but some) progress on the apps to review<br />
[12:33:30] &lt;ajmitch&gt; wendar: for the news app, any of us should be able to push to the extras PPA<br />
[12:33:55] &lt;ajmitch&gt; I'd have to check permissions on the screenshots branch<br />
[12:34:13] &lt;wendar&gt; ajmitch: I wasn't sure if the extras PPA had been enabled for the group in general, or just for stgraber<br />
[12:35:07] &lt;ajmitch&gt; pretty sure it's any of us<br />
[12:36:02] &lt;ajmitch&gt; looks like mvo or one of the software-center developers needs to merge in screenshot branches<br />
[12:36:08] &lt;stgraber&gt; any of you should be able to upload<br />
[12:36:47] &lt;ajmitch&gt; great<br />
[12:36:58] &lt;stgraber&gt; the only current issue is that we need to ping mvo or someone else everytime to merge the branch, then wait for the screenshot to be available on the web service<br />
[12:37:09] &lt;stgraber&gt; then push the package and wait for the sync to extras.u.c<br />
[12:37:27] &lt;stgraber&gt; last time mvo opened an IS ticket to get the screenshots updated from the branch<br />
[12:37:37] &lt;ajmitch&gt; that sounds cumbersome<br />
[12:37:54] &lt;stgraber&gt; ideally this part should be more automated and ARB should be able to do the merge directly (to the current branch or to another one, not really important)<br />
[12:38:48] &lt;wendar&gt; ultimately, software center will be using a web form for these screenshots<br />
[12:39:02] &lt;wendar&gt; and we can use the same web form submission process<br />
[12:39:24] &lt;wendar&gt; merging into a bzr repository is cumbersome, but should only be temporary<br />
[12:39:25] &lt;ajmitch&gt; similar to screenshots.debian.net, which is what's mostly used at the moment<br />
[12:41:00] &lt;ajmitch&gt; so news should be ready to go, SIR was ready as well?<br />
[12:41:14] &lt;wendar&gt; on SIR I'm waiting for the screenshots from the developer<br />
[12:41:23] &lt;wendar&gt; otherwise it's ready<br />
[12:41:35] &lt;ajmitch&gt; ok<br />
[12:41:58] &lt;ajmitch&gt; pytask - with statik unavailable, one of us will need to pick it up<br />
[12:43:07] &lt;stgraber&gt; I can take it<br />
[12:43:12] &lt;ajmitch&gt; ok<br />
[12:43:44] &lt;wendar&gt; there's also a new one: schedio<br />
[12:43:58] &lt;ajmitch&gt; yep, was getting to that one :)<br />
[12:44:37] &lt;ajmitch&gt; I haven't taken a look at it yet, does anyone want to take it, or shall I?<br />
[12:45:57] &lt;ajmitch&gt; I don't see people clamouring to review it, so I'll take it<br />
[12:46:28] &lt;ajmitch&gt; simple-stopwatch - I pushed a branch with some packaging changes, the author has some other fixes he wants to make once his exams are over<br />
[12:47:10] * wendar is traveling for the next few weeks, so can't take on anything more than seeing news and SIR the rest of the way through the process<br />
[12:47:30] &lt;ajmitch&gt; cdbs & python apps are a bit of a pain for /opt, still<br />
[12:47:43] &lt;ajmitch&gt; wendar: ok<br />
[12:48:35] &lt;ajmitch&gt; suspended sentence was done, thanks stgraber :)<br />
[12:49:19] &lt;ajmitch&gt; & fagan was lookign at 4dtris, reading the lp bug he hadn't had a chance to look at it in depth<br />
[12:49:34] &lt;ajmitch&gt; am I missing any?<br />
[12:49:43] &lt;ajmitch&gt; looks like we don't have anything to vote on this week<br />
[12:52:27] &lt;ajmitch&gt; I guess by the silence, we're pretty much done<br />
[12:52:53] &lt;ajmitch&gt; who'd like to be chair for the next meeting?<br />
[12:53:52] &lt;ajmitch&gt; stgraber?<br />
[12:55:01] &lt;stgraber&gt; next meeting is the 1st of March right ?<br />
[12:55:01] * wendar checking calendar<br />
[12:55:01] &lt;ajmitch&gt; yes<br />
[12:55:27] &lt;wendar&gt; I probably won't be able to attend that one<br />
[12:55:29] &lt;stgraber&gt; ok, I seem to be available so I can chair<br />
[12:55:50] &lt;ajmitch&gt; thanks :)<br />
[12:55:50] &lt;wendar&gt; ajmitch: could you note that in the Agenda page?<br />
[12:55:54] &lt;ajmitch&gt; ok, we'll see who's available onthe list - we'll have to discuss replacing statik there too<br />
[12:55:56] &lt;ajmitch&gt; sure<br />
[12:56:21] &lt;ajmitch&gt; sorry for the rush, but I'll need to run off for work<br />
[12:56:36] &lt;ajmitch&gt; thanks everyone for attending, I'll write up minutes when I get a chance<br />
[12:56:59] &lt;ajmitch&gt; #endmeeting<br />
Meeting ended.<br />