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[07:23:02] &lt;rodrigo_&gt; at least I've seen #endmeeting<br />
[07:23:20] &lt;diwic&gt; #topic pulseaudio - master or stable-queue<br />
[07:23:50] &lt;diwic&gt; [topic] pulseaudio - master or stable-queue?<br />
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[07:24:35] &lt;diwic&gt; [agreed] to go with stable-queue for the time being as the d-bus API in master wasn't all that ronoc wanted, and since a rewrite is planned on master by Lennart.<br />
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[07:25:14] &lt;ronoc&gt; diwic, grand<br />
[07:25:49] &lt;diwic&gt; [topic] any audio bugs we should have a closer look at during the coming week?<br />
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[07:26:50] &lt;diwic&gt; noone?<br />
[07:27:04] &lt;diwic&gt; okay, moving on<br />
[07:27:19] &lt;ronoc&gt; am I haven't seen any, only the pa-stream-writable failed<br />
[07:27:20] &lt;diwic&gt; [topic] anything in particular done in the previous week?<br />
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[07:27:38] &lt;ronoc&gt; last week, got two sru's out for lucid and maverick<br />
[07:27:46] &lt;diwic&gt; ronoc, for indicator-sound?<br />
[07:27:48] &lt;ronoc&gt; and merged my UI natty work into trunk<br />
[07:27:48] &lt;rodrigo_&gt; not much from me, was working on other desktop-related stuff<br />
[07:27:50] &lt;ronoc&gt; yep<br />
[07:27:58] &lt;diwic&gt; ok<br />
[07:28:10] &lt;diwic&gt; For my own part, I was at plumber's<br />
[07:28:15] &lt;ronoc&gt; today i'm working on a fading mute behaviour<br />
[07:28:18] &lt;ronoc&gt; how was it ?<br />
[07:28:22] &lt;rodrigo_&gt; we have some bugs though about porting indicator-* stuff to gsettings, gtk3 and gtkbuilder<br />
[07:28:24] &lt;ronoc&gt; I must read your report<br />
[07:28:29] &lt;rodrigo_&gt; https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=gnome3-gtk3<br />
[07:28:35] &lt;rodrigo_&gt; https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=gnome3-gtkbuilder<br />
[07:28:38] &lt;diwic&gt; I learned how to use the wakeup_rt tracer which can be important for tracking down xrun<br />
[07:28:42] &lt;rodrigo_&gt; https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=gnome3-gsettings<br />
[07:29:03] &lt;rodrigo_&gt; these will be fixed as soon as the new stack gets in (it's in a PPA for now)<br />
[07:29:10] &lt;ronoc&gt; diwic, whats that<br />
[07:29:21] &lt;ronoc&gt; rodrigo_, cool<br />
[07:30:03] &lt;diwic&gt; ronoc, basically, if a kernel driver is blocking pulseaudio from being scheduled, it can help to show the troublesome areas<br />
[07:30:31] &lt;diwic&gt; (or jack, for that matter)<br />
[07:30:52] &lt;ronoc&gt; diwic, good to know<br />
[07:31:56] &lt;diwic&gt; ronoc, what's fading mute behaviour?<br />
[07:33:04] &lt;ronoc&gt; diwic, when someone chooses mute from the menu, it should fade exponentially the volume and slider to 0, unmuting should restore the slider to its original position<br />
[07:33:21] &lt;ronoc&gt; diwic, a bug against indicator-sound for unity<br />
[07:33:23] &lt;rodrigo_&gt; oh, that's cool<br />
[07:33:41] &lt;ronoc&gt; yup should be pretty easy<br />
[07:34:11] &lt;diwic&gt; cool, for absolute coolness you should also lower the sound frequency, but I guess that's much harder :-)<br />
[07:34:37] &lt;diwic&gt; the question is whether that should be in PulseAudio or indicator-sound, really<br />
[07:35:12] &lt;ronoc&gt; diwic, true<br />
[07:35:13] &lt;diwic&gt; you're probably going to have to rewrite that once Lennart gets the volume envelope architecture working<br />
[07:35:19] &lt;rodrigo_&gt; I guess PA, so that when you mute from other parts, it works the same<br />
[07:35:45] &lt;ronoc&gt; diwic, whats the volume envelope architecture ?<br />
[07:35:55] &lt;ronoc&gt; change<br />
[07:36:55] &lt;diwic&gt; ronoc, some kind of way to apply a volume envelope to a sound<br />
[07:37:10] &lt;diwic&gt; are you familiar with volume envelopes, e g ADSR envelopes?<br />
[07:37:29] &lt;ronoc&gt; diwic, yes<br />
[07:37:54] &lt;ronoc&gt; diwic, so that should cover what I'm currently doing<br />
[07:37:59] &lt;ronoc&gt; but its not a biggie<br />
[07:38:06] &lt;diwic&gt; so he merged something from Intel into master but then realized it was broken, so he wants to rip it out, which is part of the major rewrite planned for master<br />
[07:38:26] &lt;ronoc&gt; and as you mentioned earlier no date has been set for when his work is to land<br />
[07:39:11] &lt;diwic&gt; so as long as you're prepare to rewrite it in a year or two<br />
[07:39:29] &lt;ronoc&gt; diwic, sure<br />
[07:39:44] &lt;ronoc&gt; the nature of the ever revolving beast ...<br />
[07:40:20] &lt;ronoc&gt; evolving even<br />
[07:41:03] &lt;diwic&gt; [topic] anything you plan to do in the coming week?<br />
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[07:41:40] &lt;rodrigo_&gt; for me, when the GTK3 stack lands in natty, probably start fixing the indicator-* bugs<br />
[07:41:54] &lt;ronoc&gt; when is that rodrigo_ ?<br />
[07:42:13] &lt;rodrigo_&gt; ronoc, should be soon, seb128 is going to do it soon<br />
[07:42:23] &lt;ronoc&gt; remove dbus-glib bindings and use gdbus<br />
[07:42:27] &lt;ronoc&gt; rodrigo_, grand<br />
[07:42:36] &lt;ronoc&gt; hopefully this week<br />
[07:42:44] &lt;ronoc&gt; and plan other indicator work<br />
[07:42:51] &lt;rodrigo_&gt; well, dbus-glib is ok to be used, it's not on the deprecation list, but yes, it's a good idea to move to gdbus asap<br />
[07:43:25] &lt;ronoc&gt; rodrigo_, yeah I think the plan is for all indicators, libindicate dependent stuff to be moved over for alpha 1<br />
[07:43:41] &lt;rodrigo_&gt; ok<br />
[07:43:55] &lt;ronoc&gt; i go on holidays on the 22 so need to do in the next two weeks !<br />
[07:44:04] &lt;ronoc&gt; more than likely starting today<br />
[07:44:12] &lt;diwic&gt; for myself, I want to process some backlog from the weeks I were at UDS and Plumber's, then try to get started on the apport troubleshooting stuff<br />
[07:45:02] &lt;rodrigo_&gt; hey guys, I need to leave now for lunch, are we done? or should I read the backlog later?<br />
[07:45:11] &lt;diwic&gt; I think we're done<br />
[07:45:19] &lt;ronoc&gt; all good<br />
[07:45:23] &lt;rodrigo_&gt; ok, I'll read the backlog later just in case :)<br />
[07:45:26] &lt;rodrigo_&gt; bbl<br />
[07:45:28] &lt;diwic&gt; cool, see you!<br />
[07:45:30] &lt;diwic&gt; #endmeeting<br />
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