Started logging meeting in #ubuntu-meeting<br />
[10:02:34] &lt;skat_&gt; [TOPIC] 10.10 beta<br />
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[10:03:17] &lt;skat_&gt; [TOPIC] open action items<br />
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[10:03:44] &lt;skat_&gt; robbie?<br />
[10:04:04] &lt;marjo&gt; robbiew?<br />
[10:04:06] &lt;robbiew&gt; I'm still working on growing the release team..which isn't a trivial task at all<br />
[10:04:13] &lt;skat_&gt; :)<br />
[10:04:21] &lt;robbiew&gt; I guess I could say I found skat_ :)<br />
[10:04:35] &lt;robbiew&gt; but I have this as a ToDO<br />
[10:04:43] &lt;robbiew&gt; and don't think we need to carry it on the Actions list<br />
[10:04:59] &lt;robbiew&gt; as for talking to pitti about the SRU tracker...will do that today and update<br />
[10:05:04] &lt;robbiew&gt; the wiki and send email<br />
[10:05:18] &lt;skat_&gt; fair 'nuf<br />
[10:05:19] &lt;robbiew&gt; that's it for me<br />
[10:05:27] &lt;skat_&gt; dyfet around?<br />
[10:06:04] &lt;skat_&gt; dyfet, any update on the Kubuntu armel build issues?<br />
[10:06:18] &lt;robbiew&gt; may have to carry this one over<br />
[10:06:22] &lt;ogra&gt; work is going on<br />
[10:06:27] &lt;Riddell&gt; 15:57 < dyfet> Riddell: I am discussing right now with NCommander.  It has become a python-qt4 build issue at the moment<br />
[10:06:32] &lt;Riddell&gt; is what he said a moment ago<br />
[10:06:35] &lt;robbiew&gt; cool<br />
[10:06:36] &lt;ogra&gt; right<br />
[10:06:43] &lt;dyfet&gt; yes, we were discussing kdebindings this morning.  The problem I am facing is with python-qt4 currently...NCommander said he had a patch for that<br />
[10:06:47] &lt;ogra&gt; they are working on it (i have that in the ARM summary too)<br />
[10:06:59] &lt;robbiew&gt; skat: can probably mark this as "Done"...as dyfet has taken ownership of the situation<br />
[10:07:02] &lt;dyfet&gt; (or as ogra said :)<br />
[10:07:08] &lt;skat_&gt; cool.  will do.<br />
[10:07:16] * ScottK-droid waves.<br />
[10:07:25] * robbiew sits back down and shuts up<br />
[10:07:37] &lt;marjo&gt; robbiew: you can relax now<br />
[10:07:43] &lt;robbiew&gt; ScottK-droid: that's a funny nick in many different ways...lol<br />
[10:07:49] &lt;skat_&gt; ok, ... then on to the next item ;)<br />
[10:07:59] &lt;skat_&gt; [TOPIC] QA Team report<br />
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[10:08:13] &lt;marjo&gt; Hardware automated testing<br />
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[10:08:13] &lt;marjo&gt; http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html<br />
[10:08:13] &lt;marjo&gt; Laptop<br />
[10:08:13] &lt;marjo&gt; Passed:   41 (85%)      Failed:    0 ( 0%)      Untested:  7 (15%)<br />
[10:08:13] &lt;marjo&gt; Server<br />
[10:08:14] &lt;marjo&gt; Passed:   56 (84%)      Failed:    0 ( 0%)      Untested: 11 (16%)<br />
[10:08:16] &lt;marjo&gt; Netbook<br />
[10:08:18] &lt;marjo&gt; Passed:   13 (81%)      Failed:    0 ( 0%)      Untested:  3 (19%)<br />
[10:08:20] &lt;marjo&gt; Desktop<br />
[10:08:22] &lt;marjo&gt; Passed:   11 (79%)      Failed:    0 ( 0%)      Untested:  3 (21%)<br />
[10:08:24] &lt;marjo&gt; There is an environmental issue in the Boston DC that is preventing testing of some systems.<br />
[10:08:26] &lt;marjo&gt; fader is investigating.<br />
[10:08:39] &lt;marjo&gt; Boot Performance Week of 2010-08-16 to 2010-08-20<br />
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[10:08:39] &lt;marjo&gt; http://people.canonical.com/~cr3/daily-bootcharts/<br />
[10:08:40] &lt;marjo&gt; Total number of systems with regressions: 0 out of 30 systems<br />
[10:09:11] &lt;marjo&gt; robbiew: ameetp will continue to improve charts, based on feedback<br />
[10:09:27] &lt;robbiew&gt; ack<br />
[10:09:45] &lt;marjo&gt; ScottK-droid,  robbiew: We are just starting to collect data for UNE and Kbuntu regularly so regression information was not available.<br />
[10:10:01] &lt;marjo&gt; need to build up data first<br />
[10:10:06] &lt;marjo&gt; ok?<br />
[10:10:26] &lt;ScottK-droid&gt; Glad to see it being collected.<br />
[10:10:40] &lt;marjo&gt; Milestoned Features<br />
[10:10:40] &lt;marjo&gt; qa-maverick-mago-daily<br />
[10:10:40] &lt;marjo&gt; Retargeted to end of release, due to higher priority projects.<br />
[10:10:51] &lt;skat_&gt; marjo,  update on the bluetooth issues from last week?<br />
[10:11:29] &lt;marjo&gt; skat_ don't have any, sorry<br />
[10:12:01] &lt;marjo&gt; skat_ we are planning to do manual tests, so will confirm then<br />
[10:12:08] &lt;skat_&gt; cool.<br />
[10:12:18] &lt;skat_&gt; any other questions for QA?<br />
[10:12:28] &lt;marjo&gt; Unresolved Critical/High Milestoned Bugs<br />
[10:12:28] &lt;marjo&gt; None<br />
[10:12:28] &lt;marjo&gt; Unresolved Critical/High Release Targeted Bugs<br />
[10:12:28] &lt;marjo&gt; 617583:Candidate revision checkbox_0.10.2<br />
[10:12:28] &lt;marjo&gt; Unresolved Targeted Regression Bugs<br />
[10:12:29] &lt;marjo&gt; None<br />
[10:12:31] &lt;marjo&gt; Unresolved Bugs with Patches<br />
[10:12:33] &lt;marjo&gt; None<br />
[10:12:48] &lt;mathiaz&gt; marjo: I'll take a look at checkbox 0.10.2 today<br />
[10:12:50] &lt;marjo&gt; cr3 is working 617583<br />
[10:13:00] &lt;marjo&gt; mathiaz: much appreciated<br />
[10:13:18] &lt;mathiaz&gt; marjo: he has already submitted a branch for review<br />
[10:13:26] &lt;mathiaz&gt; marjo: I just need to review and sponsor it<br />
[10:13:34] &lt;marjo&gt; mathiaz: ack & thx<br />
[10:14:00] &lt;marjo&gt; skat_ that's it from QA team<br />
[10:14:29] &lt;skat_&gt; thanks!<br />
[10:14:40] &lt;skat_&gt; any other questions?<br />
[10:15:01] &lt;skat_&gt; [TOPIC] Security Team<br />
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[10:15:05] &lt;jdstrand&gt; o/<br />
[10:15:11] &lt;jdstrand&gt; [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick<br />
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[10:15:13] &lt;jdstrand&gt; [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-security.html<br />
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[10:15:26] &lt;jdstrand&gt; Short report this week.<br />
[10:15:32] &lt;jdstrand&gt; No milestoned bugs. Blueprints are basically on track (several have been postponed throughout the cycle).<br />
[10:15:41] &lt;jdstrand&gt; mdeslaur has uploaded to -proposed packages for security-m-tls-renegotiation-updates, our last remaining essential blueprint.<br />
[10:15:53] &lt;jdstrand&gt; The necessary hardware recently has been made available (with the linaro kernel) for kees to continue his work on arm-m-missing-security-features.<br />
[10:16:06] &lt;jdstrand&gt; We have one release-targeted bug: bug #545795. Got upstream feedback. I'm working on it today and should get it out certainly by early next week if not today.<br />
[10:16:08] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 545795 in libvirt (Ubuntu Maverick) "apparmor driver blocks access to some hostdev and pcidev devices" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/545795<br />
[10:16:28] &lt;jdstrand&gt; that's it from me<br />
[10:16:46] &lt;skat_&gt; thanks jdstrand<br />
[10:16:51] &lt;skat_&gt; any questions for security?<br />
[10:17:20] &lt;skat_&gt; [TOPIC] kernel team update<br />
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[10:17:26] &lt;jdstrand&gt; skat_: sure thing :)<br />
[10:17:27] &lt;ogasawara&gt; Overall Kernel Team status is summarised at the first URL below, including the item(s) called out in the agenda.  Our burndown chart for Beta is at the third URL, and our overall burndown chart is at the fourth:<br />
[10:17:32] &lt;ogasawara&gt; [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick<br />
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[10:17:32] &lt;ogasawara&gt; [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick#Milestone ubuntu-10.10-beta<br />
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[10:17:32] &lt;ogasawara&gt; [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-10.10-beta.html<br />
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[10:17:32] &lt;ogasawara&gt; [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team.svg<br />
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[10:17:45] &lt;ogasawara&gt; On the bugs noted in the agenda, status is as follows:<br />
[10:17:52] &lt;ogasawara&gt; Bug 605488 - Currently assigned to kernel dev (lag - Lee Jones).  This issue only appears to surface when the swapper is active.  Lee is still investigating.<br />
[10:17:54] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 605488 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) "BUG: scheduling while atomic: mmcqd/46/0x00000002" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605488<br />
[10:18:04] &lt;ogasawara&gt; Bug 605739 - Believed to be resolved in the latest linux-ti-omap4-2.6.34-903.7 kernel. Still waiting for verification before closing.<br />
[10:18:05] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 605739 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) "BUG: Bad page state in process swapper pfn:94d23" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605739<br />
[10:18:18] &lt;ogasawara&gt; Bug 566645 - The patch in question is already included in the latest Maverick kernel. I've posted a comment to the bug and marked it Fix Released.  The Lucid SRU still remains open and under consideration.<br />
[10:18:19] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 566645 in linux-ti-omap (Ubuntu Lucid) "OTG configuration is broken on omap kernel" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/566645<br />
[10:18:33] &lt;ogasawara&gt; Bug 369850 - Seems this was resolved in cups.  I've subsequently closed the Maverick kernel task for now and posted a comment requesting that a new bug be opened in the event any new id's need to be added to the Maverick parport_pc driver.<br />
[10:18:35] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 369850 in cups (Ubuntu Maverick) "Cannot set up parallel port printer" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/369850<br />
[10:18:55] &lt;ogasawara&gt; As a general status, we've rebased to the lastest 2.6.35.2 upstream stable kernel.  The 2.6.35.2 stable updates unfortunately brought in a noticable regression, Bug 618846.  We've since applied a fix and uploaded a new kernel, linux-2.6.35-17.23.  Also, per the Tech Board decision, we've dropped support for ia64 and sparc from the kernel.  We are above the trend line for our Beta release burndown chart but below<br />
[10:18:55] &lt;ogasawara&gt;  the trend line overall.  The remaining Beta release work items are not release critical.<br />
[10:18:57] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 618846 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel 2.6.35.2 reports "scheduling while atomic"" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/618846<br />
[10:19:22] &lt;ogasawara&gt; Questions?<br />
[10:19:23] &lt;cjwatson&gt; Can https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2010-August/012272.html be applied for the next kernel upload?  Tim's acked it already.  I can't upload a merged grub2 without it, and that's a prerequisite for a non-prehistoric mdadm - bit of a chain.  (My apologies for not noting this problem before now, I should have done.)<br />
[10:19:39] &lt;ogasawara&gt; cjwatson: yep, on my list todo this morning.<br />
[10:19:42] &lt;cjwatson&gt; thanks<br />
[10:20:16] &lt;skat_&gt; thanks ogasawara<br />
[10:20:21] &lt;skat_&gt; any further questions?<br />
[10:20:27] &lt;cjwatson&gt; Also, I know that JFo is going to do some more triage on the bugs induced by grub gfxpayload=keep, but it would be nice if those could get some development effort at some point for natty<br />
[10:20:40] &lt;cjwatson&gt; I mean, in the lead-up to natty, so that we can hope to turn this on again<br />
[10:20:53] &lt;ogasawara&gt; cjwatson: ack, will get it on our radar<br />
[10:21:00] &lt;cjwatson&gt; much appreciated :)<br />
[10:21:02] &lt;JFo&gt; on it on my side as well<br />
[10:22:13] &lt;skat_&gt; [ACTION] ogasawara to track grub gfxpayload=keep for Natty pre-work<br />
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[10:23:23] &lt;skat_&gt; ... looks around, seems like time for next topic...<br />
[10:23:43] &lt;skat_&gt; [TOPIC] Foundations Team<br />
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[10:23:50] &lt;cjwatson&gt; hi<br />
[10:23:53] &lt;cjwatson&gt; I've been away for three weeks and only got back on Monday.  Bear with me while I proceed to show how I have no idea what's going on.<br />
[10:23:57] &lt;cjwatson&gt; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick<br />
[10:23:59] &lt;cjwatson&gt; There are various tail-ends of feature work here; the ones most likely to result in some further work are buy-something, cd-build-speed, installer-redesign, and uefi-support.<br />
[10:24:09] &lt;cjwatson&gt; We'll probably switch grub2-boot-framebuffer back off for beta, and continue work on it out of band.  General summer holiday chaos meant that it was difficult to get it the amount of kernel support it required, and it seems at this point that it's too risky to leave it switched on.<br />
[10:24:15] &lt;cjwatson&gt; Mostly we have a great big pile of bugs.  Summary of those listed on the agenda:<br />
[10:24:18] &lt;cjwatson&gt; bug 441941, bug 563916, bug 601030, bug 604765, bug 613008: no updates at this time<br />
[10:24:24] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 441941 in grub2 (Ubuntu Maverick) "grub fails after running Windows" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/441941<br />
[10:24:25] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 563916 in plymouth (Ubuntu Maverick) "[details.so] No prompt for [S]kip or [M]anual recovery on server boot" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/563916<br />
[10:24:26] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 601030 in gcc-4.4 (Ubuntu Maverick) "broken configuration test with fortify source " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/601030<br />
[10:24:27] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 604765 in OEM Priority Project "[Maverick] 32bit Ubuntu installer not calculating swap correctly for PAE systems" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/604765<br />
[10:24:28] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 613008 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Maverick) "failed to install oem-config from CD" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613008<br />
[10:24:30] &lt;cjwatson&gt; bug 459639: will probably mitigate by switching off grub2-boot-framebuffer<br />
[10:24:31] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 459639 in upstart (Ubuntu Maverick) "X server starts randomly in failsafe when starting from cold boot" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/459639<br />
[10:24:33] &lt;cjwatson&gt; bug 553745: incidence should have been greatly reduced by mountall changes, but appears to still be happening occasionally<br />
[10:24:35] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 553745 in plymouth (Ubuntu Maverick) "plymouthd crashed with SIGSEGV in ply_event_loop_process_pending_events()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/553745<br />
[10:24:36] &lt;cjwatson&gt; bug 563916: awaiting response from patch submitter to review feedback<br />
[10:24:55] &lt;cjwatson&gt; (er, duplicate there, bad editing, sorry)<br />
[10:24:55] &lt;cjwatson&gt; bug 544139: cjwatson working on a tentative fix<br />
[10:24:57] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 544139 in consolekit (Ubuntu Maverick) "Active VT tracking can fail at startup" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/544139<br />
[10:25:02] &lt;cjwatson&gt; bug 605042: -> Linaro<br />
[10:25:04] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 605042 in openjdk-6 (Ubuntu Maverick) "[armel] java fails to start with eglibc-2.12-0ubuntu4" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605042<br />
[10:25:05] &lt;cjwatson&gt; bug 600782, bug 602273, bug 604087: fixed<br />
[10:25:09] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 600782 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu Maverick) "fatal error on startup - "ramzswap: Unknown parameter `disksize_kb'"" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600782<br />
[10:25:10] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 602273 in casper (Ubuntu Maverick) "PXE booting the desktop image fails to configure network" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/602273<br />
[10:25:11] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 604087 in iscsitarget (Ubuntu Maverick) "iscsitarget fails with can't create a target 2 0" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/604087<br />
[10:25:21] &lt;cjwatson&gt; that's all from me - any questions?<br />
[10:26:41] &lt;skat_&gt; thanks cjwatson...   will be digesting and follow up after.  :)<br />
[10:26:52] &lt;skat_&gt; anyone else have questions?<br />
[10:26:53] &lt;cjwatson&gt; yep, big pile of infodumps<br />
[10:27:24] &lt;skat_&gt; [TOPIC] server team<br />
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[10:27:25] &lt;ScottK-droid&gt; Need to decide on updating python-numpy.<br />
[10:27:33] &lt;mathiaz&gt; The release status for the server team can found at:<br />
[10:27:35] &lt;mathiaz&gt; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus<br />
[10:27:41] &lt;mathiaz&gt; Some highlights from this week:<br />
[10:27:46] &lt;mathiaz&gt;  * 10.04.1 Server released! Thanks hggdh for helping testing UEC. (mathiaz, hggdh)<br />
[10:27:50] &lt;mathiaz&gt;  * Cloud images can now be run from kvm/libvirt. (smoser)<br />
[10:27:55] &lt;mathiaz&gt; * puppetmaster-passenger package available to streamline the installation of a scalable and permormant puppetmaster system. (mathiaz)<br />
[10:27:59] &lt;mathiaz&gt;  * daily vcs PPA available for memcache. (zul)<br />
[10:28:01] &lt;mathiaz&gt;  * munin will be used instead of collectd for UEC monitoring. (SpamapS)<br />
[10:28:04] &lt;mathiaz&gt;  * Eucalyptus 2.0 testing on maverick. (kirkland, hggdh)<br />
[10:28:10] &lt;ScottK-droid&gt; Sorry. Slow typing on the phone. Can deal with it later.<br />
[10:28:10] &lt;mathiaz&gt; Blockers (5):<br />
[10:28:16] &lt;mathiaz&gt;  1. server-maverick-upstart-conversion: upstart job review from fondation: winbind bug 612958, ntp bug 604717, dhcp bug 612975<br />
[10:28:19] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 612958 in samba (Ubuntu) "Please convert winbind init script to upstart." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/612958<br />
[10:28:20] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 604717 in ntp (Ubuntu) "Please convert init script to upstart" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/604717<br />
[10:28:21] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 612975 in dhcp3 (Ubuntu) "Please convert init scripts to upstart." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/612975<br />
[10:28:38] &lt;mathiaz&gt; fondation?<br />
[10:28:45] &lt;mathiaz&gt; who can help with that?<br />
[10:29:03] &lt;cjwatson&gt; this flow of stuff has been difficult because Scott has been away a bit<br />
[10:29:27] &lt;cjwatson&gt; I can look at them, but can't necessarily be authoritative<br />
[10:29:32] &lt;mathiaz&gt; cjwatson: ok<br />
[10:29:43] &lt;mathiaz&gt; cjwatson: what would be the impact of FF on these items?<br />
[10:29:50] &lt;ogra&gt; yeah, he is greatly missed, the arm team also has some stuff we would like his input on<br />
[10:30:03] &lt;mathiaz&gt; cjwatson: does it make sense to still accept upstart jobs now in the maverick cycle?<br />
[10:30:20] &lt;cjwatson&gt; mathiaz: things that are leaf packages or relatively uncomplicated should be OK; I'd recommend against anything that's hard<br />
[10:30:31] * mathiaz nods<br />
[10:30:35] &lt;mathiaz&gt;  2. server-maverick-community: awaiting feedback (who?).<br />
[10:30:44] &lt;mathiaz&gt; I need to figure who's being chased<br />
[10:31:00] &lt;mathiaz&gt; and follow up with them<br />
[10:31:01] &lt;mathiaz&gt;  3. server-maverick-monitoring: waiting on eucalyptus upstream feedback on munin plugin.<br />
[10:31:15] &lt;mathiaz&gt;  4. server-maverick-workitemtracker: Inverted burndown chart waiting for review.<br />
[10:31:46] &lt;mathiaz&gt;  5. server-maverick-hadoop-pig: Waiting for Canonical signing Cloudera Corporate CLA.<br />
[10:31:55] &lt;mathiaz&gt; it's in the hand of the legal team<br />
[10:32:19] &lt;mathiaz&gt; For specs, their status is on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus<br />
[10:32:47] &lt;mathiaz&gt; Beta-milestoned bugs:<br />
[10:33:00] &lt;mathiaz&gt; #<br />
[10:33:02] &lt;mathiaz&gt; Bug 572317 - image-store does not support images without a ramdisk (niemeyer): might use a workaround instead, discussions ongoing<br />
[10:33:06] &lt;mathiaz&gt; #<br />
[10:33:07] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 572317 in image-store-proxy (Ubuntu Maverick) "image-store does not support images without a ramdisk" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572317<br />
[10:33:08] &lt;mathiaz&gt; Bug 556763 - eucalyptus/authorized-keys/* preseeds no longer supported (Daviey) - should be a simple fix in udeb<br />
[10:33:11] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 556763 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu Maverick) "Debconf eucalyptus/authorized-keys/* preseeds are not supported by eucalyptus-common" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/556763<br />
[10:33:11] &lt;mathiaz&gt; #<br />
[10:33:14] &lt;mathiaz&gt; Bug 610987 - euca-describe-availability-zones verbose incorrect output (Daviey) - a man(page) bug<br />
[10:33:15] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 610987 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu Maverick) "euca-describe-availability-zones output is a hint, not totally accurate - and should be documented" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/610987<br />
[10:33:17] &lt;mathiaz&gt; #<br />
[10:33:20] &lt;mathiaz&gt; Bug 599342 - Temporary failure in name resolution (hallyn) - Needing some upstart guidance.<br />
[10:33:23] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 599342 in libvirt (Ubuntu Maverick) "Temporary failure in name resolution" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/599342<br />
[10:33:30] &lt;mathiaz&gt; they're all assigned<br />
[10:34:04] &lt;mathiaz&gt; Unresolved Critical/High Milestoned Bugs<br />
[10:34:04] &lt;mathiaz&gt;     *<br />
[10:34:04] &lt;mathiaz&gt;       572317:image-store does not support images without a ramdisk<br />
[10:34:19] &lt;mathiaz&gt; this is still on discussion with gustavo<br />
[10:35:12] &lt;mathiaz&gt; and I think that's all from the server team<br />
[10:35:14] &lt;mathiaz&gt; any questions?<br />
[10:35:21] &lt;skat_&gt; robbiew,  who can help on getting feedback for blockers #2 & #3?<br />
[10:35:46] &lt;skat_&gt; mathiaz,  what's the ETA on feedback from legal?<br />
[10:35:51] &lt;mathiaz&gt; skat_: 2. - Daviey is following up<br />
[10:36:00] &lt;mathiaz&gt; 3. - we're dealing with upstream directly<br />
[10:36:10] &lt;skat_&gt; cool :)<br />
[10:36:12] &lt;mathiaz&gt; skat_: nope - hopefully a couple of days<br />
[10:36:21] * robbiew sits back down<br />
[10:36:33] &lt;cjwatson&gt; mathiaz: 556763> for the record, the change that's needed is in eucalyptus-common, not in the udeb - the point of the bug is that the udeb works fine but the facility is desired to be extended to package-based installations<br />
[10:36:33] &lt;mathiaz&gt; skat_: it hasn't a direct impact on the release itself<br />
[10:37:14] &lt;mathiaz&gt; skat_: it's a CLA to contribute to upstream packages and archive<br />
[10:37:54] &lt;mathiaz&gt; cjwatson: agreed<br />
[10:37:59] &lt;skat_&gt; mathiaz,  cool.  ok, if its not affecting release.<br />
[10:38:44] &lt;skat_&gt; any more questions?  (will go back to ScottK's when he's back again ... )<br />
[10:39:07] &lt;skat_&gt; [TOPIC] desktop update<br />
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[10:39:19] &lt;seb128&gt; hey<br />
[10:39:24] &lt;seb128&gt; [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus<br />
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[10:39:24] &lt;seb128&gt; [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-10.10-beta.html<br />
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[10:39:24] &lt;seb128&gt; [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team.html<br />
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[10:39:32] &lt;seb128&gt; Work items summary:<br />
[10:39:32] &lt;seb128&gt; We are a bit behind on the beta trend but some of the items are documentation or bug reporting improvements which can easily be delayed. We are on track for the maverick trend<br />
[10:39:36] &lt;seb128&gt; Week work summary:<br />
[10:39:37] &lt;seb128&gt; - GNOME has been updated to 2.31.91<br />
[10:39:37] &lt;seb128&gt; - we got a new unity update in<br />
[10:39:37] &lt;seb128&gt; - our web browsers maintainer started a discussion with the tb on how we can maintain chromium in main, we deferred that to next cycle but still to be clear on what would be required for that so we are ready for UDS and next cycle<br />
[10:39:42] &lt;seb128&gt;  <br />
[10:39:43] &lt;seb128&gt; The status of the bugs is being updated, I'm not going to dump the list there though but the list is mostly under control<br />
[10:39:45] &lt;seb128&gt;  <br />
[10:39:47] &lt;seb128&gt; There are still some feature freeze exception pending, especially from the dx team and unity, I guess dbarth will give details on those<br />
[10:39:50] &lt;seb128&gt;  <br />
[10:39:56] &lt;seb128&gt; Worth knowing that the retracers are broken due to launchpad bug #620458 which means crash bugs don't get retraced at the moment and so we have low visibility on current crash issues in Ubuntu<br />
[10:39:57] &lt;seb128&gt;  <br />
[10:39:58] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 620458 in Launchpad Bugs "cannot access attachments of private bugs any more" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620458<br />
[10:40:02] &lt;seb128&gt; that's it<br />
[10:40:37] &lt;seb128&gt; questions?<br />
[10:41:07] &lt;davidbarth&gt; seb128: FF exceptions for? appemu or indicator-me you mean?<br />
[10:41:23] &lt;seb128&gt; davidbarth, unity gesture support<br />
[10:41:27] &lt;seb128&gt; being one thing<br />
[10:41:31] &lt;davidbarth&gt; seb128: oh, this one, right<br />
[10:41:47] &lt;Riddell&gt; over at Kubuntu..<br />
[10:41:48] &lt;seb128&gt; I think indicator-sound will still need changes and in players as well<br />
[10:41:48] &lt;Riddell&gt;  - ubiquity KDE frontend needing more work before beta<br />
[10:41:49] &lt;Riddell&gt;  - currently going through translations QA, some problems but nothing very unexpected<br />
[10:41:52] &lt;Riddell&gt;  - qt4-qws needing approval by archive admin<br />
[10:41:54] &lt;Riddell&gt;  - lucid.1 release successful<br />
[10:41:57] &lt;Riddell&gt;  - expect to make a FFe for bluedevil to replace kbluetooth shortly<br />
[10:43:53] &lt;skat_&gt; seb128,  where will you be updating bug status?  (for the minutes ;) )<br />
[10:44:22] &lt;skat_&gt; Riddell, should I be calling it out as a separate topic?<br />
[10:44:36] &lt;Riddell&gt; skat_: I'd prefer that yes<br />
[10:45:03] &lt;seb128&gt; skat_, in the next half an hour<br />
[10:45:17] &lt;skat_&gt; [ACTION] skat_ to update agenda & flow for kubuntu.<br />
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[10:45:37] &lt;skat_&gt; thanks seb128,  bounce me a link when you're done. :0<br />
[10:45:45] &lt;skat_&gt; s/:0/:)/<br />
[10:45:56] &lt;seb128&gt; skat_, ok<br />
[10:46:55] &lt;skat_&gt; Riddell,  there seem to be a bunch of un-triage kubuntu bugs against the release.   who should be looking into them?<br />
[10:47:42] &lt;Riddell&gt; I need to do a first post feature freeze run through the bugs, but it'll have to wait until I'm done with ubiquity<br />
[10:48:21] &lt;skat_&gt; ok.   Ones I spotted that looked relevant were bug #608746,  #613636, #613834...<br />
[10:48:23] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 608746 in gfxboot-theme-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu Maverick CD Boot Changes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608746<br />
[10:48:24] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 613636 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu Maveric ISOs show purple "Ubuntu 10.10" boot splash instead of the blue Kubuntu one." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613636<br />
[10:48:26] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 613834 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "DIfficult to find "Prepare for Shipping" applet in OEM install on Kubuntu Maverick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613834<br />
[10:49:03] &lt;skat_&gt; thanks Riddell.<br />
[10:49:11] &lt;skat_&gt; any further questions for kubuntu?<br />
[10:49:18] &lt;cjwatson&gt; I expect I can cover 608746 - I think I asked Riddell to file that because I was going to be away RSN<br />
[10:49:47] &lt;Riddell&gt; yes<br />
[10:50:51] &lt;skat_&gt; [TOPIC] user experience<br />
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[10:51:04] &lt;davidbarth&gt; hmm, is that DX or Design?<br />
[10:51:34] &lt;skat_&gt; ...  hmm  just following the agenda robbiew gave me ;)  jump in.<br />
[10:52:00] &lt;seb128&gt; davidbarth, it's dx<br />
[10:52:04] &lt;davidbarth&gt; right, should be dx, anyway ;)<br />
[10:52:20] &lt;robbiew&gt; skat: Desktop Experience = DX<br />
[10:52:21] &lt;davidbarth&gt; weekly report as usual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus<br />
[10:52:23] &lt;seb128&gt; skat_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2010-08-20, you skipped desktop experience?<br />
[10:52:35] * skat_ blush<br />
[10:53:08] &lt;davidbarth&gt; nw, but add me to the next posting please<br />
[10:53:08] &lt;skat_&gt; seb128, davidbarth - yup bad page break.<br />
[10:53:30] &lt;davidbarth&gt; highlights of the status:<br />
[10:53:36] &lt;skat_&gt; davidbath, will do.<br />
[10:54:05] &lt;davidbarth&gt; appmenu is finally getting there, we're rushing to get the latest patch for the default desktop menu in<br />
[10:54:51] &lt;davidbarth&gt; 95% complete, but with some perf. improvements and now bugs we'll have to fix next week and after<br />
[10:55:38] &lt;davidbarth&gt; gtk: the big changes are over; there are still tons of little adjustments coming this week and next week before UIF at the theme level<br />
[10:55:47] &lt;davidbarth&gt; Cimi and chaotic are on that in particular<br />
[10:56:22] &lt;davidbarth&gt; the sound indicator is sealed; ronoc managed to get mprisv2 support in, depsite a last minute reshuffling of the whole API<br />
[10:57:02] &lt;davidbarth&gt; indicator-me is late; it will require a FF exception, at least to iron out the remaining UI adjustments<br />
[10:57:41] &lt;davidbarth&gt; unity: ok apart from the brand new MT integration, that will also require a FF exception unfortunately<br />
[10:58:04] &lt;davidbarth&gt; questions?<br />
[10:58:12] &lt;Riddell&gt; what's MT?<br />
[10:58:19] &lt;davidbarth&gt; multi-touch<br />
[10:58:26] &lt;davidbarth&gt; utouch, i should have said<br />
[10:58:51] &lt;Riddell&gt; davidbarth: did you get the global menu kde apps on gnome issue you had diagnosed?<br />
[10:58:52] &lt;davidbarth&gt; oubiwann's team new amazing project!<br />
[10:59:04] &lt;davidbarth&gt; Riddell: it is fixed, yes<br />
[10:59:33] * skat_ wondering if I should feel dread now about MT..<br />
[10:59:38] &lt;davidbarth&gt; Riddell: i've spotted icon issues this morning, but agateau was investigating why some were not fdo compliant<br />
[10:59:49] &lt;davidbarth&gt; MT rocks!<br />
[11:00:03] &lt;skat_&gt; :)<br />
[11:00:08] &lt;davidbarth&gt; it's just coming late, but it's been working very well for us so far<br />
[11:00:18] &lt;Riddell&gt; I'd expect they're just icons which aren't in the fd.o spec, it's not all that complete as a spec<br />
[11:00:28] &lt;davidbarth&gt; right<br />
[11:00:45] * skat_ feels a little less dread ;)<br />
[11:01:02] &lt;davidbarth&gt; other questions?<br />
[11:01:04] &lt;skat_&gt; any other questions?<br />
[11:01:09] &lt;skat_&gt; :)<br />
[11:01:14] &lt;davidbarth&gt; sorry<br />
[11:01:34] &lt;skat_&gt; np.   :)<br />
[11:02:06] &lt;skat_&gt; [TOPIC] user experience ... really this time.<br />
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[11:02:49] &lt;davidbarth&gt; ivanka is not there this week<br />
[11:02:50] &lt;robbiew&gt; skat_: so I've yet to get someone to attend from their team :/<br />
[11:02:55] &lt;robbiew&gt; and ivanka is out<br />
[11:03:07] &lt;robbiew&gt; so we can skip this week<br />
[11:03:15] &lt;skat_&gt; robbiew, davidbarth,  thanks.  will do.<br />
[11:03:30] &lt;skat_&gt; [TOPIC] ARM team<br />
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[11:03:36] * ogra is here<br />
[11:03:40] &lt;ogra&gt; Detailed status at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARMTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick<br />
[11:03:40] &lt;ogra&gt; ...<br />
[11:03:40] &lt;ogra&gt; Short summary:<br />
[11:03:40] &lt;ogra&gt;  * the whole team is researching oem-config issues with the current images (Bug #616581) (thanks to cjwatson for helping with the most blocking item here)<br />
[11:03:40] &lt;ogra&gt;  * ubuntu-netbook-efl-default-settings is still pending fixes to the default 2D session (blocked due to not working images)<br />
[11:03:42] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 616581 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Maverick) "oem-config fails to run" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616581<br />
[11:03:43] &lt;ogra&gt;  * ongoing "normal" work on main ftbfs<br />
[11:03:45] &lt;ogra&gt;  * ARM team QA participated in the QA sprint this week<br />
[11:03:47] &lt;ogra&gt;  * issues with e2fsprogs (or the omap4 kernel, we are not sure yet) were seen and are being researched currently<br />
[11:03:50] &lt;ogra&gt;  * work on kdebinding fixes has been started by dyfet (hopefully being fixed soon)<br />
[11:03:52] &lt;ogra&gt;  * NCommander sacificed his soul for demonic assistane in bringing Marvell Dove supported mainline again (and enabled the first daily live images for the dove subarchitecture)<br />
[11:03:55] &lt;ogra&gt; ...<br />
[11:03:57] &lt;ogra&gt; Beta Status:<br />
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[11:03:59] &lt;ogra&gt; http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile-ubuntu-10.10-beta.html<br />
[11:04:01] &lt;ogra&gt; Overall Status:<br />
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[11:04:03] &lt;ogra&gt; http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile.html<br />
[11:04:05] &lt;ogra&gt; ...<br />
[11:04:09] &lt;ogra&gt; Beta targeted specs:<br />
[11:04:11] &lt;ogra&gt; https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-m-omap-edid-autodetection<br />
[11:04:13] &lt;ogra&gt; https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-maverick-arm-improved-subarch-detection<br />
[11:04:15] &lt;ogra&gt; ...<br />
[11:04:17] &lt;ogra&gt; There are again 10 Beta targeted bugs (we fixed some but new ones grew)<br />
[11:04:19] &lt;ogra&gt; ...<br />
[11:04:21] &lt;ogra&gt; Still 2 Blocker Bugs:<br />
[11:04:23] &lt;ogra&gt; bug 605739<br />
[11:04:25] &lt;ogra&gt; bug 616581<br />
[11:04:26] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 605739 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) "BUG: Bad page state in process swapper pfn:94d23" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605739<br />
[11:05:21] &lt;ogra&gt; any questions ?<br />
[11:06:18] &lt;skat_&gt; ogra, cool that Marvell dove support is in mainline again.<br />
[11:06:29] &lt;ogra&gt; well, it will cause a lot of pain<br />
[11:06:44] &lt;ogra&gt; but thats NCommander's headdache (luckily)<br />
[11:06:53] &lt;NCommander&gt; I paid the price for it :-/<br />
[11:07:04] &lt;ogra&gt; come on, you get nice chinese food<br />
[11:07:13] &lt;ogra&gt; ;)<br />
[11:07:20] &lt;NCommander&gt; yes, but now I need to buy a replacement soul on ebay<br />
[11:07:34] &lt;ogra&gt; heh<br />
[11:07:54] &lt;ogra&gt; skat_, so if there are no more questions, feel free to move on ...<br />
[11:07:57] &lt;skat_&gt; thanks.<br />
[11:08:19] &lt;skat_&gt; [TOPIC] MOTU team<br />
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[11:08:30] &lt;sistpoty|work&gt; o/<br />
[11:08:37] &lt;sistpoty|work&gt; ScottK: around?<br />
[11:08:52] &lt;robbiew&gt; sistpoty|work: he had to leave<br />
[11:09:01] &lt;sistpoty|work&gt; not really much news from my side, ftbfs are still worrying, and unmet deps are as well<br />
[11:09:08] &lt;robbiew&gt; (10:33:47 AM) ScottK-droid: Need to run due to being on vacation. MOTU input is need to push on NBS and FTBFS, but no major concerns.<br />
[11:09:15] &lt;sistpoty|work&gt; heh<br />
[11:09:24] &lt;sistpoty|work&gt; that's it ;)<br />
[11:09:39] &lt;skat_&gt; cool.   any questions?<br />
[11:10:13] &lt;skat_&gt; [TOPIC] derivatives update<br />
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[11:10:28] &lt;skat_&gt; anyone around to talk to Linaro?<br />
[11:10:36] &lt;JamieBennett&gt; Hi Kate, on the Linaro front &<br />
[11:10:45] &lt;JamieBennett&gt; Linaro Release Meeting yesterday<br />
[11:10:51] &lt;JamieBennett&gt; [LINK] http://wiki.linaro.org/Releases/WeeklyReleaseMeeting/2010-08-19<br />
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[11:10:57] &lt;JamieBennett&gt; Two bugs to be worked on next week, bug #605042 and bug #615765<br />
[11:11:03] &lt;JamieBennett&gt; We have a few FFes that are to be filed, u-boot-linaro, linaro-meta, and a GPS app yet to be determined, geoclue-skyhook was approved for FFe already<br />
[11:11:06] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 605042 in openjdk-6 (Ubuntu Maverick) "[armel] java fails to start with eglibc-2.12-0ubuntu4" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605042<br />
[11:11:08] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 615765 in binutils (Ubuntu Maverick) "strip corrupts armel archives" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615765<br />
[11:11:12] &lt;JamieBennett&gt; other than that there is nothing related to the Ubuntu release to announce.<br />
[11:11:29] &lt;JamieBennett&gt; EOF<br />
[11:11:40] &lt;skat_&gt; thanks JamieBennett.<br />
[11:11:44] &lt;skat_&gt; any questions?<br />
[11:12:13] &lt;skat_&gt; [TOPIC] 10.04.2 update<br />
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[11:12:35] &lt;robbiew&gt; I added this thinking it's good to keep the point releases in mind...early!<br />
[11:12:49] &lt;ogra&gt; like ... really early ...<br />
[11:12:52] &lt;robbiew&gt; heh<br />
[11:12:55] &lt;Riddell&gt; is it scheduled?<br />
[11:13:01] &lt;skat_&gt; robbiew,  :)  agreed.   anyone around who can talk to it?<br />
[11:13:08] &lt;robbiew&gt; we have a "planned" release date...yes<br />
[11:13:18] &lt;robbiew&gt; I don't think we need to say much now<br />
[11:13:21] &lt;skat_&gt; Riddell,  planned release date 2011/1/27 per agenda...<br />
[11:13:28] &lt;skat_&gt; Riddell,  ;)<br />
[11:13:33] &lt;robbiew&gt; just want it there to keep it in folk's mind<br />
[11:13:44] &lt;skat_&gt; thanks robbiew<br />
[11:14:09] &lt;tgardner&gt; robbiew, the installer folks need enough time to add the LTS backport kernel<br />
[11:14:09] &lt;skat_&gt; Any other questions before we end meeting?<br />
[11:14:11] &lt;pitti&gt; not sure whether I should bring up a potentially disruptive maverick change at this point?<br />
[11:14:46] &lt;robbiew&gt; tgardner: ack<br />
[11:14:50] &lt;sistpoty|work&gt; pitti: referring to udev?<br />
[11:14:54] &lt;robbiew&gt; pitti: um...yes :)<br />
[11:14:59] &lt;pitti&gt; we currently carry some outdated modem infrastructure in maverick<br />
[11:15:18] &lt;pitti&gt; there is a project usb-modeswitch, which has superseded our modem-modeswitch a fair while ago<br />
[11:15:37] &lt;pitti&gt; but since neither me nor Scott had much time for udev in maverick so far, it got neglected<br />
[11:15:43] &lt;pitti&gt; sistpoty|work: that, too<br />
[11:16:04] &lt;pitti&gt; the modem-modeswitch -> usb-modeswitch change is not a trivial thing, and needs some testing<br />
[11:16:04] &lt;ogra&gt; does it affect any other stuff beyond modems ?<br />
[11:16:14] &lt;pitti&gt; well, it's for UMTS/3G cards<br />
[11:16:19] &lt;pitti&gt; i. e. for those USB sticks and mobile phones<br />
[11:16:21] &lt;ogra&gt; i.e. heavy udev changes that could break other stuff<br />
[11:16:37] &lt;pitti&gt; ogra: udev itself is relatively easy, see bug 620977<br />
[11:16:40] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 620977 in udev (Ubuntu Maverick) "[FFE] update udev to 161" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620977<br />
[11:16:41] &lt;ogra&gt; or is it just a set of new rules<br />
[11:16:42] &lt;pitti&gt; I went through all changes today<br />
[11:16:50] &lt;pitti&gt; and it's blocking some updates in GNOME as well<br />
[11:16:59] &lt;pitti&gt; but it requires changing to usb-modeswitch, which is a bigger change<br />
[11:17:17] &lt;pitti&gt; if we do that, I'm happy to send out a call for testing and regressio reporting to u-devel, etc.<br />
[11:17:32] &lt;robbiew&gt; pitti: I'm sure marjo's team can assist with that<br />
[11:18:06] &lt;pitti&gt; I have an usb 3g stick which I can test, but not much else<br />
[11:18:23] &lt;pitti&gt; my laptop has one of those gobi things, and it's broken in maverick (and not affected by mode switch in the first place)<br />
[11:19:12] &lt;robbiew&gt; so I have a built-in 3G card from Ericsson...would that be useful to test as well?<br />
[11:19:21] &lt;pitti&gt; robbiew: does it look like a CD-ROM<br />
[11:19:22] &lt;pitti&gt; ?<br />
[11:19:32] &lt;pitti&gt; I think this mainly affects USB sticks<br />
[11:19:36] &lt;robbiew&gt; ack<br />
[11:19:38] &lt;tgardner&gt; pitti, I though we got a gobi loader? didn't smb do that?<br />
[11:19:39] &lt;pitti&gt; they first act like a CD-ROM and have windows drivers<br />
[11:19:48] &lt;robbiew&gt; we do..it's in universe<br />
[11:19:55] &lt;pitti&gt; and you need to poke it with some black magic to switch over to modem mode<br />
[11:20:00] &lt;robbiew&gt; and /me is about to create an MIR for it<br />
[11:20:01] &lt;cjwatson&gt; right, usb-modeswitch is relevant on the devices that present as either CD-ROM or modem but never both at the same time (i.e. the manufacturer is too cheap to include a USB hub)<br />
[11:20:03] &lt;tgardner&gt; ah<br />
[11:20:04] &lt;pitti&gt; tgardner: that works, but hte modem never connects for me; but different topic<br />
[11:20:41] &lt;robbiew&gt; wasn't there some other manufactuer who's device did that...huwaei?<br />
[11:20:46] &lt;pitti&gt; so, I'm happy to prepare the switch and test it with my Huawei 3G stick (which is affecteD)<br />
[11:20:51] &lt;robbiew&gt; heh<br />
[11:20:51] &lt;cjwatson&gt; it's also possible to quirk the kernel to set up those devices that way by default<br />
[11:20:54] &lt;pitti&gt; but I want to get some consensus about switching this late<br />
[11:20:55] &lt;cjwatson&gt; robbiew: also Option<br />
[11:21:01] &lt;pitti&gt; the advantage of that is that we get _much_ better 3G coverage<br />
[11:21:12] &lt;pitti&gt; modem-modeswitch is obsolete, unmaintained, and doesn't work for a lot of newer devices<br />
[11:21:26] &lt;cjwatson&gt; I don't like the userspace modeswitch *at all*, but modem-modeswitch and usb-modeswitch are the same in that regard<br />
[11:21:33] &lt;cjwatson&gt; might as well use the one that everyone else seems to use<br />
[11:21:35] &lt;pitti&gt; cjwatson: ack; hack either way<br />
[11:21:41] &lt;robbiew&gt; I think if we can get this in pre-Beta, sure<br />
[11:21:47] &lt;pitti&gt; but at least we'll use the current hack :/<br />
[11:22:05] &lt;robbiew&gt; then we have a better chance of getting more testing...as loads of people tend to jump on the beta<br />
[11:22:11] &lt;pitti&gt; robbiew: I have udev packages prepared for testing, and usb-modeswitch has been in Ubuntu for ages; just needs a MIR and a dependency (or seeding)<br />
[11:22:23] &lt;robbiew&gt; ok<br />
[11:22:26] &lt;skat_&gt; [ACTION] Robbiew to create MIR for modem infrastructure upgrade<br />
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[11:22:36] &lt;robbiew&gt; whoa...<br />
[11:22:39] &lt;sistpoty|work&gt; I pretty much agree with robbiew, would be good to get it in pre beta<br />
[11:22:48] &lt;pitti&gt; FYI, bug 521578  covers the usb-modeswitch change<br />
[11:22:50] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 521578 in modemmanager (Ubuntu Maverick) "FFE: usb-modeswitch should be included by default on Maverick" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/521578<br />
[11:22:59] &lt;skat_&gt; robbiew.... heh - will delete if you tell me to. ;)<br />
[11:23:05] &lt;robbiew&gt; I think pitti is doing the MIR...I'm doing one for another package<br />
[11:23:08] &lt;pitti&gt; it's a dependency of bug 620977 in order to not regress<br />
[11:23:09] &lt;ubottu&gt; Launchpad bug 620977 in udev (Ubuntu Maverick) "[FFE] update udev to 161" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620977<br />
[11:23:11] &lt;pitti&gt; robbiew: ack<br />
[11:23:31] &lt;pitti&gt; can someone else in ~ubuntu-release ack these two bugs then?<br />
[11:23:48] &lt;skat_&gt; pitti, robbiew - will clean up actions after the meeting.  :)<br />
[11:24:10] &lt;robbiew&gt; ack<br />
[11:24:56] &lt;skat_&gt; anything else?<br />
[11:25:09] &lt;ogra&gt; close it !<br />
[11:25:18] &lt;skat_&gt; thanks all<br />
[11:25:19] &lt;pitti&gt; skat_: yes; a warm welcome from me!<br />
[11:25:23] &lt;skat_&gt; #endmeeting<br />
Meeting ended.<br />